从2017年上海混凝草音乐节初次见面、2018年成都NUART艺术节第二次见面，再到2019年巡演，Bohemian Betyars（下称 BB）对于中国乐迷并不陌生。而在本周，他们即将开启睽违五年的中国巡演，赶在巡演前，UPEE 有幸与他们进行一期专访，小提琴手 Mate Palagyi 回答了我们的问题。
UPEE：在你们的音乐中有 Ska Punk 的基底，具有东欧气质的器乐，以及丰富的能量，你们会如何形容 Bohemian Betyars 的音乐？
BB：我们的音乐可以描述为 Ska、Punk 与巴尔干民谣能量的狂野融合 —— 一种极具爆发力的混合风格，我们称之为 “速度民谣怪诞朋克（speed-folk freak-punk）”。我们的声音深深植根于东欧和吉普赛旋律，再以民间弦乐器、失真吉他和快节奏韵律点缀，让观众能跟着节奏不停跳舞。乐队成立的 16 年来，我们创作过许多不同风格的歌曲，而将这些歌曲串联起来的，是我们深厚的友谊、演奏音乐的共同喜悦，以及对自身传统的尊重。
简单来说，我们的音乐就像是：当东欧民间音乐与斯卡和朋克 “喝嗨了”，然后开启一场街头派对时，所碰撞出的声音。
Our music can be described as a wild fusion of ska, punk, and Balkan folk energy — an explosive blend we call “speed-folk freak-punk.” Our sound draws deeply from Eastern European and Gypsy melodies, colored by folk strings, distortion guitar and fast-paced rhythms that keep audiences dancing nonstop. During the 16 years of our band existence we’ve written many songs from all different genres, what connects them is our really deep friendship, the joy of playing music and the respect of our traditions.
Our music is what happens when Eastern European folk music gets drunk with ska and punk and starts a street party.
UPEE：你们会如何形容你们在专辑与在现场的音乐呈现？
BB：很多粉丝说，我们的现场演出就像一场匈牙利风格的、欢乐又混乱的狂欢盛宴。这种独特性的根源在于我们的传统 —— 匈牙利历史上经历过许多苦涩的年代，所以我们的大多数歌曲都带有一种 “苦乐交织的欢庆” 特质（bittersweet merrymaking）：我们试图通过一起唱歌、跳舞，来暂时忘却并消解伤痛。
而要把现场演出的这种能量完全搬进录音棚，几乎是不可能的任务。有些歌曲，你单独聆听时完全找不到感觉；还有些民谣叙事曲，在家静静欣赏时效果更好，但在现场演出中却无法呈现。这两种音乐呈现方式就像两个独立的世界，却都与我们的音乐完美契合。
Many fans describe our live shows feel like joyous carnivals of chaos in a Hungarian style. What makes it unique is rooted in our tradtitions. The history of Hungary had many bitter decades so most of our songs has a duality we call “bittersweet merrymaking” we try to forget and process our grief by singing and dancing together.
To implement this energy of live shows to our studio is almost an impossible task, some songs just doesn’t work when you listen them alone other folk ballads are much better at home but cannot play them during shows. These are two separate worlds fits well in our music.
UPEE：Bohemian Betyars 曾经登上过 Sziget, Boomtown 和 WOMEX 这样的相对来说比较大型、开放的音乐节现场，也有在一些比较地下的场馆进行演出的经历——两种不同场域的演出会给你们带来不同的感受吗？
BB：我觉得会的。在小型俱乐部演出时，我们与观众的距离要近得多。那种场合下，我们是绝对的主角，观众都是专门为我们而来 —— 我们见到他们会很开心，他们见到我们也同样兴奋。我个人更偏爱这类演出，因为我们有时间和粉丝交流，尤其是在国外巡演时，我们可以和观众聊不同国家的文化差异，还能以最棒的方式探索一个全新的国家：和当地人交流。
当然，大型音乐节对我们也很重要 —— 那是我们吸引新乐迷的地方，而且音乐节能为我们提供资金支持，让我们有机会去更远的国家演出。对我来说，大型舞台就像一个游乐场，我可以在上面来回奔跑，努力像在小型俱乐部里一样，和每一位观众产生连接；至少在大舞台上，我不会不小心撞到身边的其他乐手。
I think yes, we have a much closer relation with our audience in smaller clubs. There we are on our own, everyone came for us so we’re glad to see them and they’re glad to see us. I prefer these shows because we have time to meet with our fans, especially abroad when we could talk about the cultural differences, discover a whole new country the best way possible: by meeting the locals. Of course we need big festivals too, as that’s the place when we can attract new music lovers, and they offer us funds to start playing in a country far away. For me big stages are playgrounds where I can run up and down and try to reach everyone like in a small club, at least here I won’t push the musicians around me.
UPEE：在 2017、2018、2019 年你们连续三年来到中国进行演出，对于那几次来到中国演出的经历还留有什么印象吗？有没有哪些比较深刻的回忆？
BB：对我来说，中国就像一个待发掘的珠宝盒，有太多令人兴奋的体验等着去发现。那三次巡演，我们对中国的了解其实只是触及皮毛。我们在小型俱乐部、音乐厅、大型音乐节都演过，每一场我都很喜欢。
我们经历过很多疯狂的瞬间，也有过不少 “极端” 体验：比如在餐厅点餐时完全不知道自己点了什么，有时候上来的会是这辈子吃过最好吃的东西，有时候却连一种调料都认不出来；有时候我们会住进这辈子睡过最好的酒店，但下一秒可能就得登上卧铺火车，和刚认识的中国同胞挤在一个隔间里。
For me, China is a jewel box waiting to be discovered, with so many exciting experiences to discover. During these three tours, we’ve only scratched the surface what really happens in China. We’ve played in small clubs, music halls, big festivals and I loved them all. We have the craziest moments, the experiences of extremes, when you don’t know what you order in a restaurant and sometimes it’s the best food you’ve eaten, sometimes you cannot recognise a single spice in it. Sometimes you’ve got the best hotel you’ve slept in your life, then you must take a sleep-train and lay down in bed of a Chinese man you’ve just got off the train.
UPEE：对于这次时隔多年再次来到中国进行巡演有什么期待？
BB：疫情之前，我们连续三年来中国演出，能感受到中国人真的很喜欢我们的音乐 —— 这里有很棒的音乐节，我们也玩得非常开心。在欧洲，很多乐队其实不太了解中国音乐市场，所以没什么乐队会计划来这里演出。幸运的是，疫情期间我们一直和之前的演出主办方保持着联系。我们知道一定要再争取来中国，而现在，在匈牙利大使馆的帮助下，这次巡演终于能实现了，我们特别开心。
我已经等不及要去成都尝尝四川辣椒，去北京吃北京烤鸭了，也很期待再去那些很棒的朋克俱乐部、和冲浪社群的朋友们见面。我希望这次巡演是我们与中国粉丝友谊的新开始，在这次 “回归之旅” 后，我们能尽快再回到中国。
Before COVID we’ve came to China for three consecutive years, we’ve seen that Chinese people really like our music, there are great festivals here and we enjoyed it a lot. Not many bands plan to play here because in Europe we know nothing of the Chinese music market. Fortunately, we kept in touch with our concert organizer during the lockdown. We knew we had to try to come again and we are so happy that with the help of the Hungarian Embassy, we can make this tour again. I cannot wait to taste Sechuian pepper in Chengdu and Beijing duck, and to see these good punk clubss, surf communities etc. I hope that this is the beginning of our friendship with Chinese fans and after this reintroduction tour we can come back here soon.
UPEE：除此之外，这些年中国也开始有本土的 Ska 音乐节，你们在此前有了解过中国的 Ska Punk 场景吗？如果有机会，会不会想和本土的音乐人在现场进行一些即兴的表演？
BB：Ska 场景在全球各地都很有影响力，这是一个联系非常紧密的社群，在我们海外巡演时也帮过我们很多。当然，我们很愿意去中国的本土 Ska 音乐节演出 —— 在欧洲，这类社群也是我们的核心受众，他们能真正理解我们音乐的内核。
我之前没听过中国的 Ska 乐队，但我们一直很愿意合作，比如和本土音乐人一起翻唱歌曲。不过在我们的演出中，其实没有专门的即兴曲目 —— 通常更可行的方式是，找一首大家都熟悉的歌，一起合作演奏。或者我们可以在后台即兴 jam，一起享受音乐的乐趣；也可以交流想法，说不定未来几年能一起做些有意思的事。
The ska-punk scene is huge everywhere in the world, it’s a very close-knit community and helped us many times abroad. Of course we would love to play at local ska festivals, they are our core audience in Europe as well, they know what our music is about. I haven’t heard about Chinese ska-punk bands but we’re always open to do cooperations, cover songs together with locals. During our concert we don’t have improvisational songs, what usually works is finding a song what everyone knows and play it together. Or just jam in the backstage and have fun together, exchange ideas and do something together in the following years.